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purpleheart
Disaster - hit pass button by mistake and we lost a 1C contract. Grrrr!
4 card majors, Weak 2 bids, Weak NT, Transfers.
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JcksPA
JcksPA says:
Double was a better bid here, we make it to game. I bid 1S first time and partner raised, I then invited with 3 and partner didn't accept. My fault for missing the game choosing the wrong overcall.
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kbalagopal
too aggressive when I shouldn't be, too timid when I should be.
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terrypause
the X is a great bid...partner jumped to 2 spades...4 spades was worth the gamble....just making...
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tessybear
tessybear says:
Bid 2 made 4♠ - it was borderline to go to game in my way of thinking - but you always wished you had! It seem that it is"the way of the world of bridge" @kbalagopal Don't be too hard on yourself now, we all feel like that at one time or another.
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Poppingpopcorn
That was nice @graeme, what made you go to four when ptn initially passed? Was it a gamble or a ‘feeling’?
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Debdaniels
Go for game —- it’s a rap!
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lizzys
lizzys says:
Invited partner to 4, we stayed at 3 but made4
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Chance22
Chance22 says:
3♠, 11 tricks

Any help would be appreciated:

1. Was our 3♠ bid here NOT an invitation for partner to go to game if he had points at the top of the 6-9 range or something extra? (My understanding is that 6-9 is in force when responding to an overcall holding 3, as well as for responding to an opening bid.)

2. The hint said the 3♠ bid was a “competitive bid.” Is that something different we should understand? I’ve been wondering for a while what that is.

3. In fact, come to think of it, partner should have responded 3♠ to the overcall holding 4 spades. But I think @Graeme mentioned at one point that players had felt that was too aggressive.

4. I’m no expert needless to say, but I don’t see a reason to double instead of overcall. An overcall can indicate up to 16-17 points, can't it? Also, we have 5 spades, which is what we want to play in if possible. Partner could easily have had ♠A-9-8 and four diamonds, and then he would have responded diamonds to our X.

5. Amazing how much effort has to go in to getting one little bid clear in one’s mind….

cc @zoomer2591
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Poppingpopcorn
Good morning @chance22 & @graeme, this has made interesting reading! Thank you for including me in your discussion.
Looking at the hand again as if for the first time, & bearing in mind a lot of my game is down to luck, ptn passed. He didn't open, therefore he has less than 12 points. But what about distribution points? When are these added to the point count? I like to add them when first counting my points, others say no!
Here, looking at it again, East opens, I overcall & north sits up....aha, let's go for it, & bids 3 spades. ( at this point points go out the window for me & I go with the feel of the thing) now I have a clearer picture of ptns hand & go for 4.
But what a brilliant discussion!
Umcentee
Umcentee says:
X first then went to 4s after partner bid 2 - made the 4 by gambling !
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Roberto
Roberto says:
Bid and made 4 spades
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MichelleO
MichelleO says:
4S = 11 Tricks. Love Finesses when they work. Got 2 in this game.
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michael102
Bid and stopped at 4S due to E bidding, but made 11. Congrats to those who bid game.
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Alchemist
Alchemist says:
South has 5 losers, and all high cards are quality, as well as sitting over East. And North will not have put any value on any club K Q or J. So, the clue is in the title, finesse away, for 11 tricks. Incidentally, why doesn't East cover the JH lead ?? That would mean finessing against 10H .. ah well, I see that works as well ..
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Del
Del says:
Taking chances in finessing and it worked for 11 tricks
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daisydealer
Double the 1c ended in 4 S which I made will try again to see if I can make 5
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jacquelineAstaphan
Because Graeme drew to my attention that E would have the honours and so the finesse was possible,I used the losing trick count to decide whether to go to game. I had 5 losers and I took N for 9 Total 14from 18 =4 So that was the only reason that made sense to me Other than that I would normally have passed. Thanks Graeme
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welshdog1
welshdog1 says:
Bid and made 4s.East opened 1c,I bid X,partner bid 1s.....straight to 4....93%.Afraid of nt after oppositions opening bid of clubs.
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colin77
colin77 says:
As i had 4d i bid id to see if partner had good d he bid 2d i then bid 2s but he passed.,why?. he was holding 4s but only 3d in his hand! .
He had 9 points as his d were rubbish he should have bid 2s so i was unable to go to game. We made 11 tricks what went wrong.
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colin77
colin77 says:
l notice one other player bid 3d and partner responded 3s its not fair.
i see he was playing 5 card majors i was playing 4 is this the answer computer says no!!!
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ziggyfox
ziggyfox says:
So often I go too high in the bidding - this time I decided to be conservative and left it in 2S and made 11 tricks - all those heart finesses!
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younglady
younglady says:
I agree that asking 3sp is asking partner if he has the maximum 9 points to go to game. I want to point out too that the 4th spade in N hand is worth another point as now south can count on 9 trumps to play 4 sp. Am I correct Graeme?
As north denied having passed 3sp I made 5 sp..... and didn´t ask for game.
Younglady
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Kogie
Kogie says:
Sometimes with 24 pts & not vulnerable will take a chance to game
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Granna
Granna says:
Graeme I looked at the singleton club, strong spade call from my partner counted points and estimated confidently we could get 3NT on spade ruffs (hopefully a finesse in hearts. Partner jumped me to 6NT.
We got them on a calculated risk with game points, length in spades. 2 (at least) finesses with the diamond stopper. We made it. Yippee.
valeriea
valeriea says:
Graeme, Thanks for your help. I used the LTC to decide to bid 4 S. Would you consider this Okay or risky? Made 10.
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Jeanne
Jeanne says:
Finess worked twice and made 11 tricks .... rather underbid though!
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mayroses
mayroses says:
Went for game on a gamble and made it.
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chini
chini says:
15 points, I gave partner an invitational bid, she had 9 points, decided not to chance it we stayed at 3...now I’ll listen to what Graham says.....
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gingacrunch
Went for game on a gamble thinking you wouldn’t put up a finesse lesson if there wasn’t game, but it was dubious even after asking partner if they had Q diamonds!
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Gwendolinej
Made 12. Only lost Ad. I was pretty proud of my finessing for a change. Pity about the bidding. Thanks @Graeme.
Herby
Herby says:
Hi Graeme. with reference to game 5 and your note. I dont think I can play as well as you. you are right to try for the finess but need more care on the cross trumps.
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Cammo47
Cammo47 says:
East opening makes South hand stronger as finesses gain a percentage increase hence bid to 4 S maybe a little risky but should be correct most of time
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brookm
brookm says:
Made 11 after a few tries ;but can't repeat the effort
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Collar
Collar says:
10 tricks but bidding stopped at 2
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vetver6kva
4s was pretty easy ,
. I bid x and 2s respond from partner with me going to 4s
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Patmore
Patmore says:
Went straight to 4 spades after partner bid 2, as had singleton club, 2 good hearts and a King in diamonds worth trying to finesse. Made it.
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MichaelScullion
1s overcall vul shows 5 spades and a good hand. I feel that with 9 points and 4 card spade fit, north can jump to 3s. 4s from south then makes no problem.
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Delta
Delta says:
Made 12
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bcoughlin
bcoughlin says:
thanks---have a groovy holiday season!
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Kadiritf
Kadiritf says:
Made four (4)...
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Franny
Franny says:
Only went to 2 spades but made 5 - bother
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maureenfayzachs
Left it at 2S and made 4.
Kadiritf
Kadiritf says:
Bid 4S and made it!!!
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Repsacin
Repsacin says:
Bid 3NT and made 11 tricks!!
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