Play Bridge | 27 10 2017 | Hand 4 | ♠K42 ♥J95 ♦A73 ♣KJT5
October 27, 2017
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October 28, 2017

Fourth Best Leads vs Suit Contracts

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A new addition to our opening leads series. Most people play fourth best leads vs Notrump contracts, but did you know you can play them vs suits as well? If you make the agreement with partner to lead fourth best, then you can use the Rule of 11 whenever partner leads a small card. You can get loads of information about the hand in this way!

42 Comments

  1. Partner leads the 6 – what does that lead tell us? Can we use the Rule of 11 in suit contracts as well?


    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
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    – 1 X 1N
    3 P 4 P
    P P

    • janemart says:

      @skybridgeclub Errm.. Yes we can. But does it help us at all if we have a singleton Queen and partner has already told us they like hearts?
      Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, strong twos.
      Auction
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      – 1 X 1N
      3 P 4 P
      P P

    • eristdoof says:

      @skybridgeclub If you want to “lead low” from a suit with more than 4 cards lead the 4th highest, here the 6H.
      You can use the rule of 11 but need to consider if it really was the 4th card. In this hand partner has at least 4 hearts and hopefully the 6 is not “top of none”.
      Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, weak twos, transfers.
      Auction
      W N E S
      – 1 X 2
      3 P 4 P
      P P

    • normarogers says:

      what is the rule of 11?

      Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, strong twos.
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      – 1 X 2
      3 P 4 P
      P P

    • cgray says:

      @skybridgeclub Love having suggestions such as this, and also like the new format with the View/Hide scores option. One question–in the past I was able to click above, where you can review the auction, and also see the last trick played. Can’t seem to do that anymore. (This was very helpful for those of us with a short attention span.)
      Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
      Auction
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      – 1 X 1N
      3 P 4 P
      P P

      • bajir says:

        @cgray Fear not, you can still do that! (But our apologies for it not being clear how. We’re in the middle of a few small updates…) Now, to review the last trick, click/tap in the middle of the screen. You should still be able to review the auction by tapping the contract at the top of the screen.

  2. suec88 says:

    yuk, i know i shouldnt have doubled but didnt expect partner to have a hand like that! Mind you several people have made the X work so will try again!
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X 1N
    3 P 4 X
    P P P

  3. russellj says:

    Not sure what happened 2nd time around but a great improvement on the 1 st!!!!
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, strong twos.
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    – 1 X 2
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  4. johng says:

    got them 1 off cannot see minus 3 or even – 4 though
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
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    – 1 X 1N
    3 P 4 P
    P P

    • graybill says:

      @johng in my game, east ducks the heart lead and I took my HQ. Lead a diamond back for a ruff, heart return, ruff, diamond ruff and another heart ruff. It was a beautiful thing :-))They gave us one other really cheap trick so it was really just very poor play on West’s part. It would never happen like that at club.
      Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, weak twos, transfers.
      Auction
      W N E S
      – 1 X P
      3 P 4 P
      P P

  5. @skybridgeclub, love the new format showing results then all scores. Well done skybridge. It’s great that you are constantly improving the site.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    – 1 X 1N
    3 P 4 P
    P P

    • sue93245 says:

      @marciasikimeti fand @graeme – I like the new format also, but why don’t all my “friends” show up under “following”? I can find them further down on the list, but not up at the top in “my group.”
      Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, strong twos, transfers.
      Auction
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      – 1 X 1N
      3 P 4 P
      P P

  6. johng says:

    tried again and they let my Q H win so took them 3 down – maybe because I did not bid my Diamonds this time???
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    – 1 X P
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  7. ladygaga says:

    Took them down – 3 short. Pleased with that.
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, strong twos.
    Auction
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    – 1 X P
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  8. redsquirrel says:

    1st time they made 4S contract as I bid 1NT then passed. 2nd time did as @johng and didn’t bid, and got them 3 down after my QH was allowed to make then a D which partner trumped, then a H etc until partner ran out of spades!
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, strong twos.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X P
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  9. ijohn says:

    I let them play in 4S and with careful use of cross trumping. i took them down 3. Good result.
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, strong twos, transfers.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X P
    3 P 4 P
    P P

    • lesorcan says:

      @ijohn How did you get on lead in time to set up the cross ruff? My W took the 6H lead with the AH, drew trump leaving me with one. N and I were never in to cross ruff H’s and D’s.
      Bidding System: 4 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
      Auction
      W N E S
      – 1 X 1N
      3 P 4 P
      P P

  10. beaparker says:

    @skybridgeclub I too love the new layout Many thanks to one and all at skybridgeclub.
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, strong twos.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X 1N
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  11. tessybear says:

    Interesting the way N will play different ways. In this hand I only could take them down by 1, as after I got the Q heart I led a diamond, N trumps but he led the Ace C then another D – he never led H back so we could not cross trump,. Tried it 2x with same results. @johng I never bid D on either try. Go figure!
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, strong twos, transfers.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X P
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  12. noreens says:

    The Rule of 9 applies but I did not put it into effect. ):
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X 2
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  13. loughderg123 says:

    Lucky day. Partner missing diamonds very helpful.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, weak notrump, weak twos.
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    – 1 X 2
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  14. Why didn’t north open 2 H’s?

    Set E/W down one.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    – 1 X 1N
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  15. nevillet says:

    They went down one (1)…
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
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    – 1 X 1N
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  16. lesorcan says:

    Hey, Rocky25, did you get a cross ruff going? E-mail me.
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X 1N
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  17. woland80 says:

    My opponent went 3 down
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X P
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  18. wadkin37 says:

    wadkin37 Sometimes I surprise myself. I realize that hide sight makes things easier. However @graeme’s advice re
    what card to lead back to partner clued me in as to how to defend this hand. In my original attempt after I’d
    won the first trick with my singleton HQ, I wanted to return to partner with a diamond but was at a loss as to
    which D to lead. J? T? 4th highest? So I took the easy way out and led a spade…NOT a good idea…they
    MADE GAME. BUT ON REPLAY, I RETURNED 6D. PARTNER and I held them to 7 trks. Sorry not to have
    Xd.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X XX
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  19. pfredrix says:

    Some may have been misled by trusting the bidding hints, according to which a 2D response by S would show 10 HCP. It would in an uncontested auction, but over a takeout double the only strong response is a redouble. Any other response shows fewer than 10 HCP, so 2D here did not show strength, just the suit. This also has a lead directing aspect, so the lead of a Heart suggested to me (along with my D length) that partner might not have a Diamond to lead. Hence, when my Q unexpectedly held, I fired back the Diamond Jack and the result was quite gratifying.
    A redouble over the takeout would simply say, “Partner, you have an opener and I have 10 HCP. This is our hand; if the opponents persist be prepared to punish them.” But punishing them requires quick tricks. That is why I would open the N hand with 2 hearts. (The suit is a bit skimpy but the Clubs proffer a possible haven if partner has no help.) 9 HCP and only 1-1/2 quick tricks would not provide partner the defensive support he would expect from my 1H opening after he doubled the opponents’ contract.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X 2
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  20. eviefox says:

    Well only put the contract off by 1.
    Where is @poppingpopcorn I enjoy her comments?
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, weak notrump, strong twos.
    Auction
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    – 1 X 1N
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  21. nelle says:

    4S by West down 3.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    – 1 X P
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  22. miriam says:

    content to limit them to 9 tricks!
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, weak notrump, strong twos.
    Auction
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    – 1 X P
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  23. squarepeg61 says:

    Doubled East’s 4S bid and they went down four.


    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, strong twos, transfers.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X P
    3 P 4 X
    P P P

  24. suec88 says:

    how interesting, yesterday couldnt do better than keeping them to 1 down after a dreadful first hand where i doubled and they got 10! now after reading a few peoples notes i cross trumped with the diamonds and hearts, got the lead first round with the QH , sent out diamonds and yes they go down 4. thank you everyone for the great information that comes up.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
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    – 1 X P
    3 P 4 X
    P P P

  25. suec88 says:

    Ha, it doesnt work if you bid 1NT or 2D yourself, you have to pass first time round for E not to put the AH on partners 6H . 🙂
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X 1N
    3 P 4 X
    P P P

  26. shiningstar says:

    Opposition 4S – 4 down
    Should have doubled
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
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    – 1 X 2
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  27. Played it first passing the double. They made the contract. Replayed showing diamonds had a heart lead & they went one down.

    Bidding System: 4 card majors, strong notrump, strong twos.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X 2
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  28. scobb says:

    It seems odd that E plays inconsistently in this hand, as evidenced by the comments above. In your video, East takes the low Heart lead with the AH. When I played it, East ducks and then all hell breaks loose with cross-ruffing and also a soft Club trick, the net result being we take NS down by 4.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 X 2
    3 P 4 P
    P P

  29. collar says:

    took them 3 down on the 4 spade contract…,
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, weak notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    – 1 X P
    3 P 4 P
    P P

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