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When Do You Add Extra Points For a Void?

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  1. Wow, @tina – when do you add extra points for a void?

    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 3 P 6
    P P P

  2. Profile photo of osmaston osmaston says:

    Pressed the wrong button. First hand of the day and bottom by myself !
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P P P

  3. Profile photo of bernschro bernschro says:

    What a lovily hand to play.
    Should have made 7 tricks but my hand slipped on wrong card. Happy to make 6 after that
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, weak twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  4. Profile photo of radiog radiog says:

    Wow..made 6H
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 3
    P 4 P 6
    P P P

  5. Profile photo of crunchie crunchie says:

    Keep on stacking the cards @bajir.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, weak notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  6. 7s is laydown, throw a heart on the QD, and you can then afford to draw a round of trumps, nullifying west’s QS..
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  7. Profile photo of amafyram amafyram says:

    @tina, @bajir: I made 7spades. My strategy was to trump the AH, then lead KD (as you did) and trump A. But my next move was to lead JH, in the hope that QH is on our left. Sure enough it is and we trump. Plain sailing then, draw trumps, cross to AC, throw small heart on DQ etc. Everything is in the right place!!!
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, weak twos.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 3
    P 3N P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  8. Profile photo of hujar hujar says:

    made 6s but can see where i went wrong
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, weak notrump, weak twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  9. Profile photo of radiog radiog says:

    Meant 6S!
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 3
    P 4 P 6
    P P P

  10. Profile photo of russellj russellj says:

    Made 6 but would have liked to have made 7!!!
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, strong twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  11. Profile photo of radiog radiog says:

    Tried again…made 7 S
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    3 4 P 7
    P P P

  12. Bid 7 spades & made
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, strong twos.
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    – 1 P 3
    P 4 P 4N
    P 5 P 5N
    P 6 P 7
    P P P

  13. Profile photo of dianaosborne dianaosborne says:

    Bid 6 and Made 7. What a great start to the day!
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, strong twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  14. Profile photo of normie616 normie616 says:

    awesome hand
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  15. Profile photo of terrypause terrypause says:

    have to admit, made 7, bid 6, on the second ocassion, they fall nicely.. wish i had done straightway, like some of the others, still getting there
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, strong twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 6
    P P P

  16. Profile photo of benjiman benjiman says:

    Reached 6 Spades. I only went to four because of void in partner’s second suit. Heart lead made it into 13 tricks. Diamond keeps it to 12.
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  17. Profile photo of fishy fishy says:

    Hmm second time made 13 but first time jumped to 3S showing points and partner only bid 4S
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, strong twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 3
    P 3N P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  18. Profile photo of nelle nelle says:

    Made 6 as usual I am to cautious. Bid 4S. Enjoyed the hand.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 4
    P P P

  19. Profile photo of palmtrees24 palmtrees24 says:

    Fun hand, really enjoyed that, made 7S on 3rd try..
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, strong twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    3 4 P 7
    P P P

  20. Profile photo of lynng lynng says:

    Somehow I thought we had 3 aces. Too early for me. When i saw dummy my heart was in my mouth. But I lucked out and made my foolishly bid contract sweating at 6:30 a.m. When I was left with a ten of hearts in the end, I couldn’t even remember if it was good at this point. Thank goodness it was. Phew! Time for coffee!
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4N
    P 5 P 5N
    P 6 P 7
    P P P

  21. Profile photo of lynng lynng says:

    Wow @tina loved your video! I didn’t know what to safely bid after partner bid 1 spade. Glad to know diamond bid not only described my hand but also forced p to give me more info. @bajir your question about p’s response was very helpful. I took p for having 6 spades and a good hand and asked for aces and kings. Tina was smarter than me jumping to slam as i goofed on my interpretation of p’s response. I prayed ace of hearts would be lead and I lucked out. Also So lucky p was void in the suit with the other missing ace. Thanks for a heavenly fit, my lucky stars, and a wonderful video!
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4N
    P 5 P 5N
    P 6 P 7
    P P P

  22. Profile photo of up1tick up1tick says:

    Bid 6S, made 7 – How does one know to bid 7S?
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  23. Profile photo of tranhari tranhari says:

    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    %u2013 1 P 2
    3 4 P 7
    P P P

    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos.
    Auction
    W N E S
    – 1 P 3
    P 4 P 7
    P P P

  24. Profile photo of suzie suzie says:

    Woo hoo; made all 7 first try!

    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, strong twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  25. Profile photo of robertmanner robertmanner says:

    @Tina, You said in the video that, with a void, you are only dealing with 30 points. Could you explain a bit more what you meant by that?
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  26. Profile photo of rita928 rita928 says:

    Wow bid 6, made 7!!!
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  27. Profile photo of squarepeg61 squarepeg61 says:

    Eventually made twelve tricks in 6S using the instructions @amafyram posted.


    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 3
    P 3N P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  28. Profile photo of ennasarp ennasarp says:

    Raised partner’s 1S with limit bid of 3S. Followed up partner’s raise to 4S with cue bids twice, once for hearts next for clubs to indicate void/single turn and first round control. Ended up 6S. Kept 7. No losers. Partner should have bid 7S being void in diamonds and because of my two cue bids meaning control in all suits.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 3
    P 4 P 5
    P 5 P 6
    P 6 P P
    P

  29. Profile photo of katerina53 katerina53 says:

    I don’t know why l didn’t bid a slam but only 4 spades. Stupid of me given the big fit and the void in hearts. I made 13 tricks.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 4
    P P P

  30. Profile photo of billdrews billdrews says:

    7 spades is a great start to my bridge day.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 2
    P 4 P 7
    P P P

  31. Profile photo of sbc30061059 sbc30061059 says:

    nice hand – but didn’t bid the 7S that was so easy to make.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  32. Profile photo of sbc30061059 sbc30061059 says:

    @tina sine there were only 2 trump out – why not draw them out before cross-ruffing? I did that and made all 13 tricks easily.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  33. Profile photo of zzapfun zzapfun says:

    Great start (not). Misclick, and what a hand to do it on lol.
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P P
    P

  34. Profile photo of edith edith says:

    Woo! Hoo! Made them all. Must have done something right for a change.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  35. Profile photo of tonyuk36 tonyuk36 says:

    Bid 6 spades but made 7 after ace hearts lead. Every thing fell right after that.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4N
    P 5 P 6
    P P P

  36. Profile photo of kinderconnie kinderconnie says:

    Bid 6 made 7 I did pull trumps great hand
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, strong twos.
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    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  37. Profile photo of marsbar29 marsbar29 says:

    Made 11 spades bidding 4 spades .
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 3
    P 4 P P
    P

  38. Profile photo of marsbar29 marsbar29 says:

    Made 11 spades bidding 4 spades .
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 3
    P 4 P P
    P

  39. Profile photo of russellj russellj says:

    Made 7 second time around. Try harder next time!!
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, strong twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  40. Profile photo of lisas lisas says:

    Great start to the day, though I should be out in the garden. Bid 6S made 13 wow so happy
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, weak notrump, strong twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  41. Profile photo of chance22 chance22 says:

    Many helpful things, from all quarters.

    1. From the video: lots of suggestions, clarifications, and food for thought on valuation and bidding. I will be listening to it a few times over.

    Right off the bat, this early exchange clarifies responder’s initial choices tremendously for me:

    Tina: “Now, I could bid 4S, but I think I%u2019m a little bit too strong…. 2S is too weak, and 3S would be 10 to 12, and that’s not a 10 to 12 hand…. So, you know what I’d like to do? I’d like to discover more about partner’s hand. So how can I do that?”

    Bajir: “Just change the suit.”

    So everything stays in play. We make a bid without an upper point limit, which is forcing. We can get more information and we can show spade support later. I read in Audrey Grant%u2019s pamphlet: “13 points: Bid a new suit and then raise to at least the game level” but I never understood it.

    2. And thanks to those who pointed out that we could throw off a heart on a winning diamond.
    ( @cardplayer181 and @amafyram ). In spite of missing that, I lucked into 13 tricks, but that is clearly the way to go. It is so helpful when players give such detail.

    “It takes a village.”

    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos.
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    – 1 P 6
    P P P

  42. Profile photo of debdaniels debdaniels says:

    Redemption! Yes!
    ,
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 3
    P 3N P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  43. Profile photo of nevillet nevillet says:

    Made seven (7)…..

    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 4
    P P P

  44. Profile photo of nevillet nevillet says:

    Made seven (7)…..

    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 4
    P P P

  45. enjoyed that. Made 13
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 3
    P 4 P 6
    P P P

  46. Profile photo of carolecat carolecat says:

    Asleep at the wheel. Pulled trump too many times. Feel like a literal DUMMY! Made 6 but just.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  47. Oh dear, I was asking for aces and kings and was left in 5C. What a dilema. Should i have bid 4NT asking?
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 4
    P 4 P 5
    P P P

  48. Profile photo of onofre onofre says:

    Onofre
    Second try, recovering from an excessive dinner, made 7 easy-peasy.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  49. Answered my own question and bid 4NT the second time asking for aces and kings and made 7 S. What a lovely hand
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 4N
    P 5 P 5N
    P 6 P 6
    P P P

  50. Profile photo of evereece evereece says:

    I made six, but played it very differently…not sure how I did it, but was relieved to see that I had made it! Obviously there are seven possibles, but I’m not there yet…apparently! 😀

    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, strong twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 3
    P 4 P 6
    P P P

  51. Profile photo of wandad wandad says:

    How come? II put the contract at one more than game which I understand to br a slam push. My partner didn’t budge. Why?? Did misplay it as it should have made 7
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 5
    P P P

  52. Profile photo of megall megall says:

    That was fun! Made 7S – first time ever for me. But the 2D forcing bid was thanks to the tip. Wouldn’t have thought of it otherwise. I’m finding this site so helpful – just into second year of playing and still so much to learn. Thanks.
    Bidding System: 4 card majors, weak notrump, strong twos.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  53. Profile photo of debdaniels debdaniels says:

    If you get there you can be a top dog! 13 is there!
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    – 1 P 3
    P 4 P P
    P

  54. Profile photo of debdaniels debdaniels says:

    Made 13,tricks– guess I played earlier! LOL.
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 3
    P 4 P P
    P

  55. Profile photo of hujar hujar says:

    made 6s
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, weak notrump, weak twos.
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    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

  56. Profile photo of sueqld sueqld says:

    Bid 6S made 7 …. am happy with that 🙂
    Bidding System: 5 card majors, strong notrump, weak twos, transfers.
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    W N E S
    – 1 P 2
    P 2 P 3
    P 3N P 4
    P 6 P P
    P

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